Legislature(1999 - 2000)

01/24/2000 01:44 PM Senate JUD

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           HB 3-DRUGS: POSSESSION OF LISTED CHEMICALS                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE BRICE, sponsor of HB 3, stated that methamphetamine                                                              
(METH) is a drug that is easily cooked using accessible chemicals.                                                              
METH is known as  "speed," "crank" and "ice" and is made from                                                                   
sudafed. The manufacturing process is volatile and dangerous                                                                    
because of the type of chemicals used, causing a tremendous health                                                              
risk for the public and the manufacturer.  Improper hygiene while                                                               
manufacturing is also  a public health risk.  The police are having                                                             
to send the chemicals to labs for specific identification before                                                                
they can make an arrest.  This legislation would allow the police                                                               
to make an arrest at the scene of the crime.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. GERALD P. LUCKHAUPT, legal counsel, explained the bill creates                                                              
a new class of chemical that would be identified as essential in                                                                
the manufacturing of METH and are usually legal to possess.  If                                                                 
persons possess these chemicals with the intent to manufacture                                                                  
METH, the penalties are increased.  The penalty is now a Class B                                                                
felony and would increase to Class A--because of the danger and                                                                 
because of the cleanup costs.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Section 4 provides for the regulation of over-the-counter drugs.                                                                
Normally, these drugs  are not regulated by the state and                                                                       
possession is not a crime, but possession with the intent to                                                                    
manufacture an illegal drug would now be illegal in Alaska.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Section 5 identifies the chemicals essential for the manufacture of                                                             
METH.  These chemicals are all identified in federal law.  Federal                                                              
law makes it illegal to possess these chemicals without fulfilling                                                              
the regulatory requirements--paperwork must be completed by the                                                                 
wholesaler and client before purchasing these chemicals.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
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REPRESENTATIVE BRICE stated that many of the chemicals used in the                                                              
production of METH come from "cold remedies," and the intent of                                                                 
this legislation is not to make these products illegal unless they                                                              
are used for making METH.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR asked if there was an objective standard within                                                                 
this legislation concerning intent.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. LUCKHAUPT answered that intent would be determined by                                                                       
possession of the listed chemicals, glassware, cookbooks, and by                                                                
statements made when renting or when obtaining the ingredients.  It                                                             
would be similar to the way agents make their cases now.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR asked if Alaska was behind other states in passing                                                              
this type of legislation.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. LUCKHAUPT responded that 20 to 25 states have this legislation                                                              
and a few states have more expansive laws.  The registration                                                                    
process is somewhat problematic, the  benefits  of registration                                                                 
have to be weighed against the costs imposed on business.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR asked if the registration process was for                                                                       
businesses  that have to report the sale of chemicals.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. LUCKHAUPT responded yes.  The registration process is now used                                                              
through the federal registry.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR TORGERSON asked if the list of chemicals in this                                                                        
legislation was the same as the federal list.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. LUCKHAUPT answered the federal government identifies List 1 and                                                             
List 2 chemicals.  Possession of List 1 chemicals, with the intent                                                              
to manufacture, provides for a higher penalty than a List 2                                                                     
chemical.  This legislation combines List 1 and 2 chemicals and                                                                 
adds a few others.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR TORGERSON  was worried about a regulation that would come                                                               
out of this legislation putting restrictions on the manufacture of                                                              
common substances such as "salt."                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
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MR. LUCKHAUPT responded the "salt" being referenced to in the bill                                                              
is not table salt.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR TORGERSON answered that the section starts with "any salt"                                                              
and possibly that term should be deleted.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. LUCKHAUPT responded that he would not do that because the                                                                   
nature of the chemical can be changed easily by just removing                                                                   
water.  "Salt" is a term used when chemicals have been reduced down                                                             
to a lesser state.  This term is used because the original chemical                                                             
can be altered in such a way that it is no longer the same.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
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NANCY BUKAR, state government counsel for Consumer Health Care                                                                  
Products Assn., responded that her organization has worked closely                                                              
with Representative Brice and they are pleased to see the                                                                       
amendments they suggested incorporated into the bill.  This bill is                                                             
similar to legislation in 18 other states, and allows over-the-                                                                 
counter (OTC) products to be available to the consumer, while                                                                   
penalizing those who poses OTC products for the manufacture of                                                                  
METH.  Her organization supports the bill in its current version.                                                               
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR ELLIS thanked Representative Brice for introducing this                                                                 
legislation and commented that this is an issue of great importance                                                             
to his district.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR commented that he also supports the legislation.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR ELLIS moved to pass CSHB 3(JUD)am on to its next committee                                                              
of referral.  With no objection, the motion carried.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
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